New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

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New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby John Ross » Mon Mar 13, 2017 16:27

Several of my coolies have mentioned that the DMV (I assume nationally but need to check this) will start using a road test instead of that silly testing on-site nonsense. I think the coolies hope that I'll abandon the ricksha and sedan chair for a car, and that I should finally get around to acquiring a local license or have them trained. I might send one or two of the the coolies off to driving school but as for myself, I think I rather just wait for self-driving cars to come in as being behind the wheel of one's own motorized vehicle isn't really compatible with ~ slurp ~ my lifestyle.

But anyway, just posting this on the off-chance that one or two of you chaps might want to get a license while it's easy.

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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Big Vern » Mon Mar 13, 2017 16:49

At last! Although I will miss my mate going apoplectic after failing the S bend reverse maneouver for the nth time.
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Kal El » Tue Mar 14, 2017 19:41

I'd say it's probably a very good idea and very long overdue!
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Big Vern » Tue Mar 14, 2017 21:06

Now, wait for the whinging about all the learner drivers on the streets. :lol:
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby cranky laowai » Tue Mar 14, 2017 21:30

Big Vern wrote:Now, wait for the whinging about all the learner drivers on the streets. :lol:

How exactly would one tell the difference? :ponder:

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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Dragonbones » Tue Mar 14, 2017 21:43

The learner drivers would, in theory, be the ones actually PAUSING briefly at red lights before blowing through.
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Big Vern » Tue Mar 14, 2017 22:19

The quality of driving here isn't that bad and you guys know it. There's a lack of some basic learned skills (such as use of mirrors) which stems from inadequacies in the driving test. Those sort of things are habits that need to be taught. The new test should gradually start to solve these issues.

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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Dragonbones » Tue Mar 14, 2017 22:57

Big Vern wrote:The quality of driving here isn't that bad and you guys know it. There's a lack of some basic learned skills (such as use of mirrors) which stems from inadequacies in the driving test. Those sort of things are habits that need to be taught. The new test should gradually start to solve these issues.


A resounding no. The problem is NOT 'lack of some basic learned skills' or 'inadequacies in the driving test'. It is a fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety.
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Big Vern » Wed Mar 15, 2017 00:10

Dragonbones wrote:
Big Vern wrote:The quality of driving here isn't that bad and you guys know it. There's a lack of some basic learned skills (such as use of mirrors) which stems from inadequacies in the driving test. Those sort of things are habits that need to be taught. The new test should gradually start to solve these issues.


A resounding no. The problem is NOT 'lack of some basic learned skills' or 'inadequacies in the driving test'. It is a fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety.


In which case an improved driving test will make no difference. A complete cultural change would be needed.

I think you're wrong on this. IMO drilling basic driving skills to young people through a test that is fit for purpose will do the trick over time. Failing to teach people how to do a task and then blaming negative results on perceived cultural issues doesn't work with me.

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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Kal El » Wed Mar 15, 2017 07:06

Big Vern wrote:
Dragonbones wrote:
Big Vern wrote:The quality of driving here isn't that bad and you guys know it. There's a lack of some basic learned skills (such as use of mirrors) which stems from inadequacies in the driving test. Those sort of things are habits that need to be taught. The new test should gradually start to solve these issues.


A resounding no. The problem is NOT 'lack of some basic learned skills' or 'inadequacies in the driving test'. It is a fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety.


In which case an improved driving test will make no difference. A complete cultural change would be needed.

I think you're wrong on this. IMO drilling basic driving skills to young people through a test that is fit for purpose will do the trick over time. Failing to teach people how to do a task and then blaming negative results on perceived cultural issues doesn't work with me.

I agree. I also thought that making broad sweeping statements on a group's cultural "oddities" were frowned upon on this forum.
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby sandman » Wed Mar 15, 2017 13:37

I drove here for more than 25 years. I drove in UK for around the same time. Didn't see too many differences. Except for stabbings and punching through the side window (UK only). I dunno. I recently bao-fei'd my old jalopy, so no longer my concern. Have at it, ya numpties!
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby MilkTeaJack » Sun Mar 19, 2017 13:47

Kal El wrote:
Big Vern wrote:
Dragonbones wrote:
Big Vern wrote:The quality of driving here isn't that bad and you guys know it. There's a lack of some basic learned skills (such as use of mirrors) which stems from inadequacies in the driving test. Those sort of things are habits that need to be taught. The new test should gradually start to solve these issues.


A resounding no. The problem is NOT 'lack of some basic learned skills' or 'inadequacies in the driving test'. It is a fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety.


In which case an improved driving test will make no difference. A complete cultural change would be needed.

I think you're wrong on this. IMO drilling basic driving skills to young people through a test that is fit for purpose will do the trick over time. Failing to teach people how to do a task and then blaming negative results on perceived cultural issues doesn't work with me.

I agree. I also thought that making broad sweeping statements on a group's cultural "oddities" were frowned upon on this forum.


Hey, I do that all the time! "All people like MTJ need to bathe more". "MTJ-types spend way too much time shirking their responsibilities." "MTJs, those people, are a bunch of losers."
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Dragonbones » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:49

Kal El wrote:I also thought that making broad sweeping statements on a group's cultural "oddities" were frowned upon on this forum.


A fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety is not an 'oddity'. It is a problem, which cannot be solved by failing to address it.
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby Kal El » Mon Mar 20, 2017 13:22

Dragonbones wrote:
Kal El wrote:I also thought that making broad sweeping statements on a group's cultural "oddities" were frowned upon on this forum.


A fundamental lack of a culture of respect for both rules and safety is not an 'oddity'. It is a problem, which cannot be solved by failing to address it.

Ah yes, I see how that's different from a culture of blame shifting that isn't a problem, which can be solved by not mentioning it. :thumbsup:
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Re: New road test for driving licenses starting May 2017

Postby cranky laowai » Mon Mar 20, 2017 14:45

If one were to go to just about any four-way intersection in Taiwan with a stop light and observe traffic there any time between 10 a.m. and 8 p.m. for, say, ten minutes, you would be almost certain to see several instances of people going through the intersection on red and/or driving with at least two wheels in the opposing lane of traffic. That means Taiwan has a lot of unsafe drivers. If one sees the same behavior in other countries, it doesn't mean Taiwan's drivers are therefore safe. It means both places have a lot of unsafe drivers. This notion doesn't seem particularly difficult or problematic to me. :idunno:
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