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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby cfimages » Sun Oct 25, 2015 18:29

If "guns don't kill people, people do", is really true, the government can save millions or perhaps billions in military expenditure. Send the soldiers to war without guns.

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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby flike » Tue Oct 27, 2015 01:06

TainanCowboy wrote:It boggles the mind that this solution is so hard for some to understand. They would rather blame an inanimate object than seek the real solution to the problem... :idunno:

ThreadKiller wrote:"Guns don't kill people. People do." I've heard some dumb shit in my time. Really dumb shit. But this takes the fucking cake. It's simple: fewer people with guns = fewer gun-related deaths. It's not that fucking hard to understand.

Is there no situation where fewer people with guns /= fewer gun deaths?

Might the truth depend on who exactly is disarmed?

Example. Millions of law abiding citizens suddenly have no firearms, but almost all law breaking citizens have one or more firearms. Is it not possible that gun deaths might actually rise? And the majority of the dead be from the law abiding set?

Your statement is the kind of knee-jerk, oversimplified proposal made by many American progressives. It's a big part of why gun regulation is stalled, frankly.
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Big Vern » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:11

Guns don't shoot people, dogs shoot people.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34644333

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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby TainanCowboy » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:03

Big Vern wrote:Guns don't shoot people, dogs shoot people.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34644333

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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby divea » Sat Dec 26, 2015 15:04

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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby jimipresley » Sat Dec 26, 2015 15:31

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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Jaboney » Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:55

Wednesday, another black man killed by police on camera.
Thursday, same thing.
Friday, at a protest in Dallas, a couple of snipers opened up on police, killing four and injuring seven.

NYT

Answer still more guns?
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Bubbha » Fri Jul 08, 2016 14:04

But people with guns don't kill people! The NRA says so!
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby TainanCowboy » Fri Jul 08, 2016 15:18

Bubbha wrote:But people with guns don't kill people! The NRA says so!

I am by no definition a "defender of the NRA", but when I see such a butt-stupid misquote of their mission statement I just have to wonder what is the basis for such profound ignorance.... :facepalm:
Here is their website - https://home.nra.org/ - find that quote/statement or even allusion to it and post it.

(actually the comment is in direct opposition to their position on personal ownership of firearms)
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Kal El » Fri Jul 08, 2016 15:34

cfimages wrote:If "guns don't kill people, people do", is really true, the government can save millions or perhaps billions in military expenditure. Send the soldiers to war without guns.

I think the soldier at war part there actually makes the point against you, mate. :twocents:
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Hannibal » Fri Jul 08, 2016 18:46

Bubbha wrote:But people with guns don't kill people! The NRA says so!



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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Hannibal » Fri Jul 08, 2016 19:26

Jaboney wrote:Wednesday, another black man killed by police on camera.
Thursday, same thing.
Friday, at a protest in Dallas, a couple of snipers opened up on police, killing four and injuring seven.

NYT

Answer still more guns?

It may not be the answer, but it will certainly be the result.
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Jaboney » Fri Jul 08, 2016 22:51

I'm sure you're right. Incredible.
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Bubbha » Fri Jul 08, 2016 23:28

More killings -> more guns -> more killings -> more guns. It won't end until everyone in America is dead.

Here's an idea: fewer guns. But that's just too logical for America, right?
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Re: Obama's Gun Control Thread

Postby Hannibal » Sat Jul 09, 2016 01:38

Bubbha wrote:More killings -> more guns -> more killings -> more guns. It won't end until everyone in America is dead.

Here's an idea: fewer guns. But that's just too logical for America, right?


It's a bit simplistic.
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