The Rugby Championship 2016

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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Tempo Gain » Wed Aug 24, 2016 17:20

Kal El wrote:I think you're being overly optimistic, mate. Sure you're not an undercover Saffa? :wink:


Entirely sober and objective analysis. Few are less biased than I am on this question :)
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Wed Aug 24, 2016 21:49

Tempo Gain wrote:
Kal El wrote:I think you're being overly optimistic, mate. Sure you're not an undercover Saffa? :wink:


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Time will tell. Sadly, 50 million people hope you are right, as sad as your prediction is (compared to what one should be hoping for).
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Tempo Gain » Thu Aug 25, 2016 00:12

The political stuff is definitely a detriment and certainly a distraction as well. Will they ever get past that? Time will tell, once again, but I wouldn't be too optimistic in the short term at least. Then again, the All Blacks are 76-6-2 this decade and the side over this time frame should probably be on any list of great sports teams. They don't seem particularly more beatable at the moment.
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Thu Aug 25, 2016 00:22

Tempo Gain wrote:The political stuff is definitely a detriment and certainly a distraction as well. Will they ever get past that? Time will tell, once again, but I wouldn't be too optimistic in the short term at least. Then again, the All Blacks are 76-6-2 this decade and the side over this time frame should probably be on any list of great sports teams. They don't seem particularly more beatable at the moment.

They're very beatable, but except for the British and Irish Lions (2017) and England, the only serious contenders (SA and Aus) seem to be willfully hamstringing themselves (quotas, inept coaching and management/selections). It's like Tyson vs Douglas. He should have whipped his palooka ass, but he didn't. :idunno:
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Schuster » Thu Aug 25, 2016 15:21

I also think that Argentina might get the better of the Boks on home turf.
As for the Aussies in NZ, should be an easy prediction as to who's gonna win that win. The only question is how far?
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Thu Aug 25, 2016 18:03

Schuster wrote:As for the Aussies in NZ, should be an easy prediction as to who's gonna win that win. The only question is how far?

I think that's going to depend a lot on how they recover from their recent thrashing and spate of injuries. I think they have the guys they need, but will they select them? Luke Morahan and Samu Kerevi will make a huge difference in the center. Stirzaker and Foley on 9/10 with Phipps on the bench for cover would transfer well from the Super Rugby tourny.

According to Superbru stats this offers the best combinations according to form:
1. Scott Sio
2. Stephen Moore
3. Tom Robertson
4. Dean Mumm
5. Sam Carter/Will Skelton
6. Sean McMahon
7. David Pocock
8. Wycliff Palu
9. Nic Stirzaker
10. Christian Lealiifano Bernard Foley, as C.L. has been diagnosed with leukemia.
11. Luke Morahan/Tom English (I'm not sure if he can play for the Wallabies.)
12. Matt Toomua/Rob Horne
13. Tevita Kuridrani/Samu Kerevi
14. Reece Robinson/Nigel Ah Wong (I'm not sure if he can play for the Wallabies.)
15. Israel Folau

16. hooker - Tatafu Polota-Nau
17. prop - Allan Alaalatoa/Pek Cowan
18. prop - Laurie Weeks
19. lock - Ross Haylett-Petty/Tom Staniforth/Lukhan Tui
20. loosie - Michael Hooper/Scott Fardy
21. scrummie/2nd loosie - Colby Fainga’a/Hendrik Tui
22. back - Tevita Kuridrani
23. back - Dane Haylett-Petty

Sadly, they seem to be sticking to selections based on reputation of years gone by (Ashley-Cooper, Giteau etc). They could also base various key combinations on what worked for the Brumbies, Tahs and Rebels. There's ability and possibilities there for sure. :twocents:

Edit: Last week I was horribly disappointed with the Wallaby selections, so I'll have to see what happens in that regard this week first. I do, however, believe they have the guns to beat NZ, but probably not at home, and not this week.
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Thu Aug 25, 2016 18:55

Oh boy. The Wallabies are in for another hammering. On the plus side, at least they've brought in Kerevi.

New Zealand v Australia Rugby Championship Rd.2 Preview

Australia 2nd Test

1. Scott Sio
2. Stephen Moore (c)
3. Sekope Kepu
4. Kane Douglas
5. Adam Coleman
6. Scott Fardy
7. Michael Hooper
8. David Pocock
9. Will Genia
10. Quade Cooper
11. Dane Haylett-Petty
12. Bernard Foley
13. Samu Kerevi
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper
15. Israel Folau

Replacements:
16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
17. James Slipper
18. Allan Ala’alatoa
19. Will Skelton
20. Dean Mumm
21. Nick Phipps
22. Tevita Kuridrani
23. Reece Hodge
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:36

Same story as last week. The two sides that have selected based on Super Rugby form have dominated the round, the two sides that didn't lost.

All Blacks power to second Rugby Championship victory

All Blacks 29 - 9 Wallabies



Argentina earn first home victory over South Africa

Argentina 26 - 24 South Africa



The thing is, I think the Wallabies are learning their lesson and tweaking their team to align more with form. I reckon they're going beat the Boks in Brisbane in two weeks time. :twocents:
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Tempo Gain » Sun Aug 28, 2016 21:41

Wouldn't be surprising--SA has had trouble winning there ever since Boks internationals started up again in 93

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pickandgo.php?t ... home=1#hrh

Australia's form won't stay bad forever, but it still looks pretty bad. Missed the game, but it looks like they played better this week. Still, I'd hope to see a clearer turnaround before I had much confidence in them. SA coming off the loss, but I wouldn't rate Oz's chances in ARG too highly right now either. Both sides should be better next time out. I think it'll be a close one, tough to call! The lineup choices will be interesting.

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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Kal El » Mon Aug 29, 2016 02:11

Best Facebook Status update ever:
I'm watching Aussie get bum raped for the third time for a second week in a row and I'm thinking, "Jaysus! They're still so much better off than the Boks because they're going to beat those bitches like an old horse in Brisbane."
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Re: The Rugby Championship 2016

Postby Tempo Gain » Thu Sep 01, 2016 00:08

Interesting article on most recent SA selections:

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/RugbyCha ... m-20160831

Yep, little help there. I'm looking forward to seeing what the Wallabies do.
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