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Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:29



I'm not sure about the ethics of the police releasing this, although it is very funny. Also, is it necessary to go through so many procedures to confirm that it's bleedin' obvious he's off his tits?

It kicks in at around the 4 minute mark, for those with short attention spans who get easily frustrated.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Toad » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:44

Haven't the Americans invented breathalysers yet?
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:51

Toad wrote:Haven't the Americans invented breathalysers yet?

Supposedly it was prescription drugs. But, even so, what a waste of the police officers' time. At the point where he couldn't untie his shoelaces I'd have taken him down the cop shop for a blood test.

I don't think they use breathalysers, but perhaps an American could correct me on this.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Icon » Thu Jun 01, 2017 16:06

I had read about a cop that has arrested hundreds of people for DUI, all based on his "perception". No blood test, no breath analyzer. He says you're drunk so you are. Many jobs lost, many lives ruined. So it would seem that "scientific" evidence of drunkness is debatable.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 16:21

Icon wrote:I had read about a cop that has arrested hundreds of people for DUI, all based on his "perception". No blood test, no breath analyzer. He says you're drunk so you are. Many jobs lost, many lives ruined. So it would seem that "scientific" evidence of drunkness is debatable.

Which country was that in?

That's why you need a breathalyzer followed by a blood test. Unless you is guilty, in which case you are asthmatic and scared of needles.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Toad » Thu Jun 01, 2017 16:35

Big Vern wrote:... what a waste of the police officers' time. At the point where he couldn't untie his shoelaces I'd have taken him down the cop shop for a blood test.

Possibly there is no test (or no specified limit) for whatever-it-was he'd ingested. I guess they can't cover every possible substance so they have to use these behaviour-based tests.

I had read about a cop that has arrested hundreds of people for DUI, all based on his "perception".

American cops do have a reputation as being the real-life version of Viz's Bottom Inspectors - a bizarre combination of simmering resentment, bureaucratic anal-retentiveness, and low intelligence. I suppose dealing with the American public would turn anybody into a candidate for the nuthouse (Broadmoor, possibly). Perhaps there ought to be a time limit for employment out on the streets, after which you get forcibly moved to a nice desk job.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 17:40

Doing the test efficiently:

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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Icon » Thu Jun 01, 2017 18:44

Big Vern wrote:
Icon wrote:I had read about a cop that has arrested hundreds of people for DUI, all based on his "perception". No blood test, no breath analyzer. He says you're drunk so you are. Many jobs lost, many lives ruined. So it would seem that "scientific" evidence of drunkness is debatable.

Which country was that in?

That's why you need a breathalyzer followed by a blood test. Unless you is guilty, in which case you are asthmatic and scared of needles.


Chicago or Florida, can't remember.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 18:51

Icon wrote:
Big Vern wrote:
Icon wrote:I had read about a cop that has arrested hundreds of people for DUI, all based on his "perception". No blood test, no breath analyzer. He says you're drunk so you are. Many jobs lost, many lives ruined. So it would seem that "scientific" evidence of drunkness is debatable.

Which country was that in?

That's why you need a breathalyzer followed by a blood test. Unless you is guilty, in which case you are asthmatic and scared of needles.


Chicago or Florida, can't remember.


Cripes! We had a possible faulty breathalyzer issue in the UK some time ago, but it was dismissed in court. To obtain convictions based upon a perception? That's seriously screwed up. A bit like ice skating only with a negative result.
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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby cfimages » Thu Jun 01, 2017 21:12

In Australia it's usually breathalyzer, and if that's over the limit, you're taken to the police station for a blood test. Can't imagine how they could do it simply on perception.

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Re: Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jun 01, 2017 21:17

cfimages wrote:In Australia it's usually breathalyzer, and if that's over the limit, you're taken to the police station for a blood test. Can't imagine how they could do it simply on perception.

Sounds normal.
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Tricky sobriety test from Woods

Postby HeadhonchoII » Sat Jun 03, 2017 13:41

It's not such a dumb system, the tests they ask you do are directly related to your motor function, co-ordination, consciousness and balance.

Then what they are supposed to do is breathalyze you. Some do it the other way round of course.

The only really accurate drug test or alcohol test is from a blood sample (fresh sample). That is what police forces are supposed to do when they get a positive on the breathalyzer or you were in a serious accident.

You need to test from the blood sample because a breathalyzer result is simply not accurate enough to stand up in court especially for drug use.

A lot of common prescription or even Over the counter drugs can give a false positive for illicit drugs.
Benadryl for amphetamines.
Scopolamine (anti seasickness) for cocaine
Codeine or even poppy or sesame seeds for opiates.

This stuff is my day job.

THC and other active ingredients in marijuana are really tricky because they don't stick around long in your breath but can remain in blood for days.
That means you could get done for marijuana use but you had smoked a couple of days previously and it didn't have any effect on your nervous system when driving....but if they go by the THC level in blood only you are screwed. So in this cases measuring the breath only gives a much clearer indication that you had smoked recently and therefore could be an impaired driver due to substance abuse.

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