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Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:45



I watched this video last night. I've heard about Intermittent Fasting before, but these interviews seem more sane to what I've heard/read before, especially Dr. Rhonda Patrick's part. A nine hour eating window seems about right (eg: 9:30am to 6:30pm).
Anyone have an knowledge, experience or thoughts on this?
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Big Vern » Fri Jan 04, 2019 18:04

My colleague swears by it. He also does the hardcore fasting (up to 9 days).

I generally eat one meal a day. I've grown to enjoy feeling hungry.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Fri Jan 04, 2019 22:51

Big Vern wrote:I generally eat one meal a day. I've grown to enjoy feeling hungry.

The problem with that is, when do you start drinking anything other than water and when is the last time in the day that you drink anything other than water? According to Dr. Rhonda Patrick, the moment you drink anything other than water, regardless of "food", your clock starts. Her reasoning is pretty sound.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Big Vern » Fri Jan 04, 2019 23:42

That immediately sounds a bit hippy dippy pseudo science to me, but I'll read up on it.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby cfimages » Sat Jan 05, 2019 08:31

Kal El wrote:
Big Vern wrote:I generally eat one meal a day. I've grown to enjoy feeling hungry.

The problem with that is, when do you start drinking anything other than water and when is the last time in the day that you drink anything other than water? According to Dr. Rhonda Patrick, the moment you drink anything other than water, regardless of "food", your clock starts. Her reasoning is pretty sound.


Probably late morning.

I don't really drink anything other than black coffee and water.

But I'm weird.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:38

Big Vern wrote:That immediately sounds a bit hippy dippy pseudo science to me, but I'll read up on it.

What she's talking about at 13:45 is hardly "hippy dippy pseudo science", but whatever. :idunno:

Xenobiotic

A xenobiotic is a chemical substance found within an organism that is not naturally produced or expected to be present within the organism. It can also cover substances that are present in much higher concentrations than are usual.
Natural compounds can also become xenobiotics if they are taken up by another organism, such as the uptake of natural human hormones by fish found downstream of sewage treatment plant outfalls, or the chemical defenses produced by some organisms as protection against predators.
Xenobiotics may be grouped as carcinogens, drugs, environmental pollutants, food additives, hydrocarbons, and pesticides.

The body removes xenobiotics by xenobiotic metabolism. This consists of the deactivation and the excretion of xenobiotics, and happens mostly in the liver. Excretion routes are urine, faeces, breath, and sweat. Hepatic enzymes are responsible for the metabolism of xenobiotics by first activating them (oxidation, reduction, hydrolysis and/or hydration of the xenobiotic), and then conjugating the active secondary metabolite with glucuronic acid, sulphuric acid, or glutathione, followed by excretion in bile or urine. An example of a group of enzymes involved in xenobiotic metabolism is hepatic microsomal cytochrome P450. These enzymes that metabolize xenobiotics are very important for the pharmaceutical industry, because they are responsible for the breakdown of medications.

That pretty much also includes caffeine, Tannins etc. So yes, drinking coffee or tea starts your clock.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Big Vern » Sat Jan 05, 2019 17:22

I've read up a bit more on it and everyone seems to have different conclusions. Black coffee doesn't seem to be a problem. One guy says that drinking spirits deepens ketosis. I like his thinking.

I'll probably just carry I am as I'm not fat.

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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Sun Jan 06, 2019 09:05

Big Vern wrote:I've read up a bit more on it and everyone seems to have different conclusions.

Well, how about you share some of what you read, like links etc.

Big Vern wrote:I'll probably just carry I am as I'm not fat.

Do what works for you, bud.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Big Vern » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:50

https://www.google.co.uk/search?source= ... 7rHq8Y4xsQ

I read through some of these on coffee, for example. They seem pretty consistent in agreement that black coffee doesn't stop ketosis.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby cranky laowai » Tue Jan 15, 2019 15:56

Here's a new summary piece on the subject, along with useful links: Fasting diets are going mainstream — ahead of the science.

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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Tue Jan 15, 2019 20:19

cranky laowai wrote:Here's a new summary piece on the subject, along with useful links: Fasting diets are going mainstream — ahead of the science.

Interesting article. Thanks for the link!
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Big Vern » Thu Jan 17, 2019 09:23

A Scottish guy fasted for over a year. He was enormous to start off with.
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Re: Intermittent Fasting

Postby Kal El » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:43

Big Vern wrote:A Scottish guy fasted for over a year. He was enormous to start off with.

According to the documentary Trainspotting, the youngsters over there do a lot of fasting.
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