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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Toad » Thu Aug 10, 2017 22:04

MilkTeaJack wrote:Super quick update: my plan to switch my workouts to evenings after work-mostly failure. I come home, hit the kettlebells/BWF and I make it through two sets before I am ready for a shower and bed. Or a videogame. Or Netflix. Or anything shiny. I wonder if its a matter of discipline or if I should just stop screwing around and go hard as soon as I arrive and get it over with?
/there's a euphemism in there somewhere, I just know it.


Personally I've never been able to work out at home. It's just too boring. Of course a gym is expensive and involves travel, but (for me at least) it's that very fact that motivates you to spend some time there ("well I'm here now I might as well stay for a bit") and get your money's worth. Having other people around you seems to be motivating, at least if you can refrain from thumping the idiots who sit on the machines for 15 minutes at a stretch buggering about with their phones.
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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Toad » Sun Aug 13, 2017 22:50

Some of you might be interested in a little factoid I just found out. Was researching Frank Zane's training programme, in which he reports daily carbs around 75-150g. Remember this is a three-time Mr Olympia speaking, training 5-6 times a week, for mass gain. The USDA recommendation for sedentary adults is 225-325g/day. Now excuse my French, but that's fucked-up: that's three times what a successful athlete thought he needed. You're probably all sick of me banging on about low-carb, but I think that puts the word 'low' in context.

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Time to lose weight.

Postby Just Jennifer » Sat Apr 28, 2018 13:15

Formosa Fitness has a new gym by Minquan West Road station so my youngest (nearly 15) and I have started going 3x a week for the morning class with Alan.

I don't know fitness but my 17yo says HIIT. I don't know what the class is called but there's lots of stretching and some use of kettle bells.

The instructor is great about giving me something simpler to do when I feel I can't keep up with the young people.

It's been two weeks (six classes) and I have better balance and can now do a 60-second plank. Before I started I could never do twenty seconds. I hate hate hate planks but if they will whittle away at my waist so I can wear my dresses again then I will press on.

I know absolutely nothing about gyms so I can't comment on the facility/equipment but kudos to Formosa Fitness for their friendly and attentive staff and a great class that kicks my butt with a challenging but very satisfying 30-minute workout.

Funny thing, on Wednesday morning I was at the door at 7:15, phone and water bottle in hand, dressed in a tshirt, socks, sneakers, and the UNDERPANTS I had worn to bed! My work day doesn't start until 10am and my teens homeschool and can be up at 9ish so those 7am alarms are tough for me these days.



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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Kal El » Sun Apr 29, 2018 07:00

Just Jennifer wrote:Formosa Fitness has a new gym by Minquan West Road station so my youngest (nearly 15) and I have started going 3x a week for the morning class with Alan.

I don't know fitness but my 17yo says HIIT. I don't know what the class is called but there's lots of stretching and some use of kettle bells.

The instructor is great about giving me something simpler to do when I feel I can't keep up with the young people.

It's been two weeks (six classes) and I have better balance and can now do a 60-second plank. Before I started I could never do twenty seconds. I hate hate hate planks but if they will whittle away at my waist so I can wear my dresses again then I will press on.

I know absolutely nothing about gyms so I can't comment on the facility/equipment but kudos to Formosa Fitness for their friendly and attentive staff and a great class that kicks my butt with a challenging but very satisfying 30-minute workout.

Funny thing, on Wednesday morning I was at the door at 7:15, phone and water bottle in hand, dressed in a tshirt, socks, sneakers, and the UNDERPANTS I had worn to bed! My work day doesn't start until 10am and my teens homeschool and can be up at 9ish so those 7am alarms are tough for me these days.



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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Just Jennifer » Sun Jun 17, 2018 00:48

It's been about two months now. I've hurt my back once and it took me a few days to recover enough to do the full 30-min morning workout.

The numbers on the scale haven't budged much but my slacks are fitting a little more loosely, there is a little bit of definition on my arms ("triceps" the girls tell me), and on my outer thighs.

My weak spot is still my belly and my hips but I guess that's common with women anyway and always the last bit to go.

My eating habits haven't changed a whole lot apart from having protein shakes for breakfast either just before my workout for energy, or as soon as I get home, which is sometimes 30 min after workout. Fewer carbs and less sugar, but still indulging in my sugary coffees and the occasional treat.


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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Big Vern » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:54

Well done, JJ. I would strongly recommend taking up a martial art if you have time. It doesn't matter which one. They seem to work with pretty much everyone (Steven Segal being an obvious exception to the rule).

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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Just Jennifer » Tue Aug 14, 2018 23:49

Back to Formosa Fitness tomorrow morning at 7:30. I'm a little worried. I was traveling for about a month and it's been about six weeks since I did a workout. Wish me luck.

Interestingly, the weight I took off my thighs hasn't all returned there BUT I seem to be carrying a little more on my hips and belly. Most distressing is that my butt looks different.


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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Just Jennifer » Sun Sep 02, 2018 02:19

Well. Dave is not impressed with my crunches. I told him that either my arms are too short or my legs are too long because I just can’t get my fingers to my knees in that position.

Oh, and I can’t do a proper push-up. It’s a little embarrassing.


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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Dragonbones » Tue Sep 04, 2018 14:46

That's ok, just do more of the knees-down style until you build up the strength. Jiayou!
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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Icon » Fri Sep 07, 2018 21:24

Just Jennifer wrote:Well. Dave is not impressed with my crunches. I told him that either my arms are too short or my legs are too long because I just can’t get my fingers to my knees in that position.

Oh, and I can’t do a proper push-up. It’s a little embarrassing.


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The thing with proper positions is that they are meant to help you avoid injuries. However, yes, I agree, some of us are rather short and our hands and legs simply do not reach where they should. Quite a conundrum.
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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby maoman » Tue Nov 13, 2018 13:03

maoman wrote:Here's my plan:
Four glasses of water every morning, before food, and before coffee.
Eat whatever the heck I want all day except for French Fries, which are from Satan. Don't eat anything after 6:00 pm, unless it's social.

What do you think? Will it work?

Seven years later, I can answer my own question - it didn't work.

My weight actually changed very little from the time when I first started this thread until earlier this year. It turns out what I needed was a total readjustment in how I consumed. I'm down from 108 kgs earlier this year to about 86, and still going down. Here's what I've been doing, your mileage may vary:
  • I always have a case of club soda/sparkling water in the fridge. When mouth boredom hits, I grab a club soda. The bubbles make it more palatable than just plain water, although I drink lots of that, too.
  • I bought small bowls (rice bowls?) from Ikea in the same style as the normal bowls I already had, and I use them now for everything - cereal, soups, ice cream, whatever. Portion size matters.
  • I often skip breakfast. When I need to eat breakfast, I fry eggs in half a strip of bacon. The bacon gives the eggs a bit of flavour, but I don't overdo it on non-lean meats, so bacon is carefully rationed.
  • I workout on an empty stomach often. It's hard, you do get fatigued more easily, and overall strength is a little off, but just a little. Anyway, it works for me.
  • I don't eat bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, etc. as a rule. But when I do, I don't worry about it. A bite of spaghetti isn't going to satisfy you. If you're going down that path, might as well have a normal portion.
  • I don't eat seconds of anything unless I've had a full glass of water in between. That usually negates the need for the second helping.
  • I don't drink booze by myself, only when I'm socially obligated. When I am in a social situation, I don't think worry about it - I drink normally.
  • Protein is good. Sometimes I buy the beef at Wellcome that is about to expire and cook it up. It tastes great and fills me up, and helps me keep on my lean muscle and lose fat.
  • I often skip lunch. Most lunch items have lots of carbs and little protein, which is why they're so cheap.
  • When I eat lunch, I often go to a Taiwan cafeteria and just stick to veggies and meat. No rice.
  • I drink tons of coffee.
  • I bought the chocolate protein whey at Costco (EAS brand by Abbott Laboratories) and drink that after a hard workout. It satisfies my hunger and helps to keep on muscle while getting rid of fat.
  • I work out almost every day except Sundays, averaging 5-6 days a week at the gym. I was losing weight before I started gym-ing, but the exercise accelerated it. Now the pounds are slipping off. But I go pretty hard in the gym, my pulse rate is usually pounding and I'm sticking to strength training mostly, not doing any cardio at all. I think high intensity is the way to go to lose weight, but that's just my gut feeling.

I don't get down on myself if I've fallen off the wagon diet-wise or exercise-wise. In fact, the last two weeks were not good for my diet because my mom and dad were in town, and it's not easy to say no to mom's cooking!

I also try to stay pretty positive about what I'm doing. I take weekly gym selfies (more/less) and I like it for the progress I see. It's amazing how blind we are to our own bodies. I pretty much need to see the pics in front of me to actually acknowledge progress. I also have a small (secret) FB group (4 people) of fitness buddies that I share fitness thoughts and progress with. The encouragement and support and knowledge shared is really great to have.

I hope I don't get off this exercise kick any time soon. I like the way it makes me feel more than anything else it does for me. Weightloss, health, fitness, appearance, are all important, sure, but I LOVE the way I feel after I've worked out hard. And if I don't get a workout in for more than a couple of days, I start to get cranky.

Finally, I'll throw in a good word about my gym, The Key. I imagine I could do well at a number of gyms, but I've been a member of other gyms and it never took. If you're looking for a decent place to exercise, you could do worse than this place.
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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby Big Vern » Tue Nov 13, 2018 15:12

22kgs lost in under a year! That's pretty impressive.
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Re: Time to lose weight.

Postby jimipresley » Tue Nov 13, 2018 16:58

Big Vern wrote:22kgs lost in under a year! That's pretty impressive.

Very impressive, but bloody hard, motivated work. My problem is I couldn't live without bread, pasta and potatoes, and being vegetarian really limits your options.
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