Crime and punishment: sentences and fines

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Re: Crime and punishment: sentences and fines

Postby Toad » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:32

To be fair, crime pays in most countries (with the possible exception of Saudi Arabia) as long as you're a competent criminal. Howard Marks did OK. The police in Britain regularly complain that habitual criminals laugh in their faces (or worse) because they know they're untouchable - or at least are likely to receive trivial sentences. For people who either (a) don't feel shame at being arrested in the first place or (b) don't commit crimes because they know it's wrong, the slight possibility of a slap on the wrist is no deterrent.

The calculus of deterrence is weird though. Extremely harsh punishments don't necessarily stop people committing crimes, especially if enforcement is spotty. It's usually sufficient to make sure that whatever benefit they got from the crime is negated (if that's physically possible). Oh, and make sure people know they WILL get caught.

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Re: Crime and punishment: sentences and fines

Postby Big Vern » Wed Jun 07, 2017 18:15

Toad wrote:
The calculus of deterrence is weird though. Extremely harsh punishments don't necessarily stop people committing crimes, especially if enforcement is spotty. It's usually sufficient to make sure that whatever benefit they got from the crime is negated (if that's physically possible). Oh, and make sure people know they WILL get caught.

Indeed. The problem with the concept of deterrence is nobody commits a crime expecting to get caught. Perhaps with the exception of jihadis.
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Re: Crime and punishment: sentences and fines

Postby Corns » Sat Jun 10, 2017 00:49

A Canadian abuser getting away with violence towards his GF.

I can`t believe I missed this last November....I am getting weak in my old age. :lol: :lol:

You're actually a nihilistic sociopath wrapped up in a Canadian flag pretending to be some giant intellect tapping away from a southern French shed.---Broonale
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