Big Vern wrote:I have the feeling the old chap might be losing the plot a bit, especially with the JFK and Ivanka Trump stuff.
Later in the interview, Jones called Trump senior “a fucking idiot”.
Well, he's obviously still got a few of his marbles.
I have to say, I've never understood the fuss about the Beatles. A lot of their music is, to my admittedly unprofessional ear, horribly unsophisticated (even in historical context). McCartney got a bit better on the bass eventually, but personally I think his basslines vary somewhere between unmemorable and strange. I suppose some would say 'innovative' or 'idiosyncratic'.
Toad wrote: I have to say, I've never understood the fuss about the Beatles. A lot of their music is, to my admittedly unprofessional ear, horribly unsophisticated (even in historical context). McCartney got a bit better on the bass eventually, but personally I think his basslines vary somewhere between unmemorable and strange. I suppose some would say 'innovative' or 'idiosyncratic'.
From your posting history I have you down as an erudite man so, please, take a few hours off and listen to the Beatles and reassess. Doesn't matter which album.
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One of the first albums I bought - come to think of it, it might have been THE first - was a Beatles one. Magical Mystery Tour, IIRC. I remember liking it at the time, but then again I was about 10. I still like Penny Lane. I've listened to a bit more of their music, on and off, over the years, and just never really got into it. Compared to their contemporaries, one gets the impression they didn't put in a whole lot of effort. Fair enough, they must have been doing something right to be that famous, but to my ear 70-80% of their oeuvre meanders between bland, slovenly, and drug-induced taking-the-piss.
Big Vern wrote:Just out of interest, which of their contemporaries put in more effort?
Just my impression - I wasn't there - but IMO The Kinks, The Who, and The Yardbirds (just off the top of my head) took their craft a bit more seriously, but maybe that's just because I like their music more. Barrett-era Pink Floyd borrowed rather heavily from the Beatles but eventually developed a distinctive (and, again, much more refined) voice than them. Not sure if Led Zeppelin or Bowie could be considered "contemporary" .. I suppose the Beatles had pretty much had their day by the time they reached the top of their game. Come to think of it, the Beatles really only produced anything of note between (roughly) 1963 and 1968. That's a pretty unimpressive run even by modern music-industry standards.
That's without even considering the guys on the other side of the pond, many of whom were extremely professional and talented, possibly because the music scene was that much bigger and therefore exerted more competitive pressure. The Beatles were riding along on their own fame much of the time. I'd rather listen to the Stones than the Beatles, but I suspect they also were just enjoying the ride.
I recall an interview with John Lennon in which he said that all their tunes are basically "Three Blind Mice." Never really was a Beatles fan. They had some good tunes, though. I was always more of a Stones kind of guy. And Alex Harvey. And AC/DC. But hell! Them moptops made a shitload of dosh.
sandman wrote:I recall an interview with John Lennon in which he said that all their tunes are basically "Three Blind Mice." Never really was a Beatles fan. They had some good tunes, though. I was always more of a Stones kind of guy. And Alex Harvey. And AC/DC. But hell! Them moptops made a shitload of dosh.
My favourite quote from Lennon (he of the peace and love blather) was something to the effect that if he had a nuclear bomb, he'd drop it on the Philippines. And I don't think he was joking. This was after they'd been fleeced and roughed up in an episode of Marcos-era thuggery (don't know what else they expected, really, but I guess they were thinking of the $$$).
As regards McCartney specifically, have a look at his bizarre plucking style, which no doubt informed his eccentric basslines. Not saying that unconventional technique is, like, evil, and I'm certainly not saying eccentric=bad, but there's a reason the right thumb (McCartney is left-handed) normally rests on the pickup or the low B:
Now listen to (and watch) Jack Bruce. Not a Cream fan myself, but the musical ability of this lot is a serious step up from the Beatles:
Love this quote from Pryor`s ex-wife who responded to Quincy`s revelation that Brando slept with Pryor.
Following the publication of Jones' interview, Pryor's widow Jennifer confirmed to TMZ that the comedian had sex with Marlon Brando. "It was the Seventies! Drugs were still good, especially quaaludes," she told TMZ of the hookup. "If you did enough cocaine, you'd fuck a radiator and send it flowers in the morning."
"I love this guy," he says. "He's totally out of his tree. But the great thing was, he rang me after this. I'd only heard about it and I'd thought, I'm not sure it's true. The joke is, I love Quincy, even after this. He's a crazy motherfucker. But I respect him, he's done a lot of very good things. So he rang me, and I'm at home on my own. And I'd finished work, so I had a drink, and now I'm grooving at home, I'm cooking, I've got a little bit of wine going, I'm in a good mood, and I don't give a shit. So I get a phone call: 'Is this Mr. McCartney?' 'Yes.' 'Quincy would like to speak with you.' Because he's always worked through security guys. I said, 'Hey, Quince!' 'Paul, how you doing, man?' 'I'm doing great—how are you, you motherfucker!' I'm just jiving with him. 'Paul, I didn't really say that thing—I don't know what happened, man. I never said that. You know I love you guys!' I said, 'If you had said that, you know what I would have said? Fuck you, Quincy Jones!' And he laughed. I said, 'You know I would say to that: Fuck you, Quincy Jones, you fucking crazy motherfucker!' So actually we just had a laugh. And he was like, 'Oh, Paul, you know I love you so much.' 'Yeah, I know you do, Quince.' But he's an old guy. I don't know what it was. But I don't think I'm the worst bass player he's ever heard. Or maybe he's never heard bad bass players. He's talking all of this jazz and musicianship, and he's an arranger and stuff. This is like Buddy Rich saying Ringo couldn't drum. Because coming from Buddy Rich's sensibility, Ringo can't drum. But coming from our sensibility, Buddy Rich is a load of shit. But God bless him."
The last line was footnoted. "God bless him" = "What a cunt." (Buddy Rich, that is, not QJ.)